Wayne Besen - Author, Activist, Columnist, Public Speaker

Friday, October 28, 2005

The Boston Globe ran a really good article today on a sexual conversion group invading Boston. Brenna Simonds, who runs a small ex-gay ministry, has the audacity to tell the reporter that she doesn't care who wins the political battles over same-sex marriage.

However, if you read further it says that her "ex-gay" ministry is less than one block from the State House. Well, how convenient. For a person who claims not to care about politics, her prime location sure makes it easy to lobby at a moments notice. These slick "ex-gay" political lobbyists who say they aren't involved in lobbying against gay rights, remind me of the 400 lbs. man walking out of an all-you-can-eat buffet saying that he doesn't like food.

Later in the article, spokesvirgin Randy Thomas, an "ex-gay" who is still so grossed out by naked women that he hasn't had a date or sex in at least a decade (the last time was with a man), blatantly lies about Exodus, his ex-gay organization.

"We don't cure people," said Randy Thomas, membership director for Exodus International, which has more than 100 ex-gay ministry chapters nationwide. "The goal is Christ, not a particular orientation."

Maybe Thomas is too busy looking at Internet porn to read his own group's webpage, so I'll remind him that Exodus claims to offer "Freedom From Homosexuality Through The Power of Jesus Christ". Um, sounds like a cure to me, or a deceptive word game to trick clients into thinking they have a chance of becoming heterosexual. And let's not forget Exodus' billboards that scream "The Truth Brought Freedom!"

Clearly, the goal of Exodus is turning people straight, not simply making them Christians. If sexual conversion has nothing to do with the group, what is the point of them existing, when regular churches can handle the task of converting people? Exodus is a scam and Randy Thomas is a liar who spews out so much doublespeak, he probably has a forked tongue.

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Well Focus, Exodus' primary funding source doesn't say "cure" per say. Rather Dobson says:

"reversed"
"treated"
"reformed"
"turn their boys around" (it's ok to snicker at this one)
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"permanent change"

http://www.exgaywatch.com/blog/archives/2005/05/focus_issues_a.html
posted by Daniel Gonzales, at 10/28/2005 11:36 AM

Snicker, snicker, snicker... They said "turn their boys around"...LOL
posted by Jeromie Brann-Hurt, at 10/28/2005 11:42 AM

As a Christian I am saddened by such things... yes I believe homosexuality is a sin. But it is no different than any other sin. This "Exodus" group seems to be missing the point about what the Bible teaches about sharing the Gospel. It shouldn't be focused on a particular sin BUT should be focused on saving sinners (which we all are). I know former homosexuals just like I know former liars, theives, etc. There is no equation where one plugs in the variables and stops being a homosexual. Deliverance only comes from being born-again (John 3:3) and even then it may still be a struggle BUT again the point is that same struggle exists with ANY sin. Just my two cents...
posted by I say, I say..., at 10/28/2005 1:28 PM

EX GAY WATCH DISAGREE'S WITH WAYNE!
In his blog today, Wayne Besen attacks Brenna Simonds, leader of a small Boston exgay ministry, the name of which he does not give. That ministry's name is is Alive In Christ and is unlucky enough to be based out of a church located a block from the capital building. In Besen's eye by virtue of the fact Simonds ministers to exgays and is located near the capital she is surely involved in anti-gay politicking. Mr. Besen provides no substantiation of these accusations Simonds is politically involved. Googling "Brenna Simonds" turns up little more than mention of her ministerial work and a couple Amazon.com book reviews of rather benign Christian books. I question if Besen's unsubstantiated accusations on Ms. Simonds and inflammatory commentary on Randy Thomas' sex-life later in his post serve any constructive purpose.

Stop the "SLANDER" Wayne!
posted by Anonymous, at 10/28/2005 2:30 PM

Wayne,

You have no proof!

Jeremey
posted by Anonymous, at 10/28/2005 2:31 PM

It is only wayne's opinion, not fact.
posted by Adam Kautz, at 10/28/2005 2:55 PM

I think Wayne hit a sore note on some a few readers... Good going Wayne!
posted by Jeromie Brann-Hurt, at 10/28/2005 3:00 PM

All that Wayne said was, "For a person who claims not to care about politics, her prime location sure makes it easy to lobby at a moments notice." This statement is factually correct on its face.

Funny how those "ex-gays" who have found "freedom in Christ" seem to also require freedom from that strong compulsion to visit and monitor this site and others like it. Pure, pure politics.

Sadly, they are twisted, confused, troubled souls. It is also worthwhile to note that those who believe things that defy reality become so frustrated, angry and tormented when someone has the guts to stand up and tell it like it really is.
posted by Chris L., at 10/28/2005 4:37 PM

Yeah so we don't agree with Wayne 100% of the time. Whoopty do. Anyone who cares to analyze our work at ExGayWatch is always welcome to do so. Critique makes one stronger and more effective.
posted by Daniel Gonzales, at 10/28/2005 4:51 PM

How nice of you to assist us then in becoming "stonger and more effective". How ridiculous.
posted by Chris L., at 10/28/2005 4:58 PM

Yes hun, people concerned with public policy should simply go around saying whatever they want in a vacuum where their ideas can be free from the annoying constraints of peer-review or critique to test those concepts for solvency. That model will defiantly assure only water-tight and coherent ideas emerge from a movement.
posted by Daniel Gonzales, at 10/28/2005 7:27 PM

As a non-christian atheist, I do not believe in the concept of sin. It saddens me that christians expect non-christians to abide by their doctrine when it is based on nothing more than a belief, not a fact. Many christians believe that someone who is innately gay is sinning against god for who they are. If a creator actually exists, it is against all logic to conclude that creator would create a being that he/she/it didn't want to exist in the first place. That being said, I don't really know the reasons for the existance of an ex-gay ministry other than to exert some sort of societal or political influence. It seems to have become "chic" as of late. I don't find Wayne's comments about any of this farce to be out of line or inflammatory in any way. It pales in comparision to the shit that spews from the "christian" groups. I would just like christians to mind their own business and stay out of mine, it's that simple, you don't bother me, I won't bother you.
posted by BC WaterBoy, at 10/28/2005 8:12 PM

Why is there this obsessive hate for us Gays from the "christian" right?
Because ONE ALWAYS HATES WHAT ONE WRONGS!
More evidence of this is the extreme hatred that white southern "christians" had for black people even before the civil rights movement started. Why? They (African Americans) were meek, powerless, mute and avoided (on pain of death) going into white neighborhoods. So where did all the hate come from? Whites KNEW they were treating blacks like shit and right winger "christians" KNOW that they are doing the same thing to us.
And to the I say I say blogger, we DONT CARE what you have to say about homosexuality or anything else! We know you THINK it's a sin, WE DONT!!!! And we've heard it ALL before and DONT BELIEVE that nonsense, So stick your "two cents" and shut the fuck up! It's because of "loving christians" like you that the suicide rate for gay teenagers is so high! THATS the REAL sin!!!! And you and your president and your mammon churches are GUILTY!!! If there is a last judgement before God, you and yours will have a hell of a lot more to answer for than any homosexuals!
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posted by Anonymous, at 10/29/2005 9:55 AM

God loves the christian...he just hates the christianity.
posted by Anonymous, at 10/29/2005 10:30 AM

Well said Gary, my sentiments exactly. Christians need to spend a lot more time on their own "sins". By their own admission, they're not perfect, so why don't they fly at it and correct their own "sins" instead of budding their unwelcome noses in the affairs of others?
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posted by Anonymous, at 9/18/2008 3:12 AM

ウエディング情報ならレイウエディング(Leiwedding）。無料のブライダルマガジンや結婚準備の為の情報など多数掲載
全国のカップルからの投稿による、結婚式　演出アイデア、節約アイデア714を紹介。挙式から披露宴の演出、引出物選び、２次会までふたりの個性を演出するオリジナルウェディングの参考になるアイデアが盛りだくさんです。

RAID復旧・NAS復旧・サーバ復旧に新技術を投入！大幅な低価格化を実現いたしました。他社様で数十万円・数百万円と言われてしまいお困りのお客様、お気軽にフリーダイヤルまでご相談下さい。
RMTのことならワイアード。安心、安全なリアルマネートレードならお任せ下さい。

プロモーション＆デザイン、ユーザビリティ、アクセシビリティ、SEOなど、さまざまな観点からお客様のWEBサイト、東京　ホームページ制作を分析します。
釣りの4つの主な要因：釣りの場所を選択して; を選択して右の魚の餌; 良い釣具の準備; 熟練した釣りテクニック
posted by Anonymous, at 9/19/2008 1:18 AM

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テレマーケティングを行うだけでなく「売り方開発」の成功セオリーを貴社と一緒に作っていくことが/fontエムエム総研が他社と大きく違うところです

株式投資アイアンドダブリュー（I&W）は資産運用や株式投資、モチベーション向上方法を提案するコンサルティング会社です
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posted by Anonymous, at 9/24/2008 1:36 AM

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posted by whymoto, at 9/27/2008 1:59 AM

インターネットの普及に伴い、転職情報サイトを用いた転職が主流になりつつある。当然ながら転職情報サイトは転職情報会社が宣伝目的・利益目的で設けているものなので、転職に過剰な期待や幻想を抱かないように注意する必要はある。最初の本格的な転職サイトとしては、リクルート社が1996年に立ち上げた「Digital B-ing」が挙げられる。同サービスはその後「リクルートナビキャリア」、「リクナビNEXT」とサービス名を変更して継続している。 2006年時点で、売上や掲載企業数が多い転職サイトとしては、「リクナビNEXT」「en社会人の転職情報」(2000)「毎日キャリアナビ」(1999)などがある。これらのサイトの運営会社は、元々紙媒体の職業情報を扱っていたり、情報誌の営業を行っていたりした企業が大半である。
posted by whymoto, at 9/27/2008 2:48 AM

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posted by whymoto, at 9/27/2008 2:49 AM

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posted by whymoto, at 9/27/2008 2:50 AM

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posted by whymoto, at 9/27/2008 2:50 AM

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