Friday, March 24, 2006
As debate over the issue flares in several states, a major adoption institute says in
a new report that it strongly supports the rights of gays and lesbians to adopt, and urges that remaining obstacles be removed.
"Laws and policies that preclude adoption by gay or lesbian parents disadvantage the tens of thousands of children mired in the foster care system who need permanent, loving homes," the Evan B. Donaldson Adoption Institute says in the report to be issued Friday.
39 Comments:
posted by , at
3/24/2006 12:50 PM
I wonder how the Religious "Wrong" are going to try to discredit this wonderful report and well as the well established adoption institute...
posted by Jeromie Brann-Hurt, at
3/24/2006 1:26 PM
These sanctimonious hypocrites put politics before the welfare of children. Notice that the vast majority of heteros who adopt only want white babies or increasingly chinese children; whereas those adopted by gay couples are often children of color, including older kids who are hard to place, the throw away kids that all the 'good christians' cant be bothered with. Not only is the religious right homophobic, they're a bunch of closet racists too!
And thanx wayne for deleting what was undoubtedly another lobotomous diatribe from our resident 'ex-gay' psychostalker kurt.
B. Queer
posted by , at
3/24/2006 1:27 PM
B. Queer...just look at the funding for this report per the article Wayne linked, and you can see pretty easily how it will be discredited.
posted by , at
3/24/2006 1:51 PM
Please, if it were solely a contest between whether a child should be raised by two loving gay people or a couple of tongue-talking religious kooks, there is simply no comparison. You may think I'm kidding, but I've known many children of fundamentalists, and many are INCREDIBLY messed up. You can doubt me, but it's completely true.
posted by , at
3/24/2006 2:14 PM
I know lots of gay parents. Some with adopted children.
Mostly adopted children. And it's true, these children are different color from their parents more often, tend to be very open children and friendly.
Some are handicapped kids with subtle or less so disability.
The gay couples are mixed as well and raise their children in neighborhoods and social networks where this isn't much of a standout situation.
I am deeply offended that groups like FRC, FOTF or ADF look at families in homogenous ways, or in ways that make one believe family sitations are static and can't change with circumstances.
Their model of family doesn't (and never really has) existed for most of us.
Crisis and a family's options to pull together effectively through it is what makes the difference.
The facts remain, there are TENS of THOUSANDS of children in need.
And gays and lesbians, unlike the heterosexuals that spawned these children in the first place, usually have to plan for biological children much more carefully and adoptive parents are investigated before parenting to check for fitness.
THESE are the optimals for effective parenting that heteros are not subject to.
The homogenous model of family anti gay parents activists want, are homes with less compassion and opportunities for diversity.
Religious homes, especially of fundamentalists, tend towards rigid gender and social standards.
These lack respect for individuality or other social norms.
And I've noticed, that James Dobson and Tony Perkins haven't invited any foster care fatigued kids of color or with problems into THEIR homes.
It's not that THEY want these children, they just don't want gay people to have them.
posted by Regan, at
3/24/2006 2:51 PM
OMG!
Just look at the news blotter in the column next to the link on adoption.
Look at all those examples of heteros who should never have had children.
The minister's wife and suspicion she killed her husband.
Any bets?
He was probably and intractable control freak who saw females as just something to drive like slaves.
There might have been physical or sexual abuse in this family and the only out she had for herself and her daughters was murder.
He wouldn't be the first man whose public religious face, was actually that of a demon at home.
posted by Regan, at
3/24/2006 2:58 PM
Ummm...James Dobson's son Ryan is adopted.
posted by , at
3/24/2006 2:58 PM
Poor Ryan! Imagine being lucky enough to be adopted and then finding mout your father is James Dobson!!
posted by , at
3/24/2006 3:02 PM
Dobson loves his father...the younger one is an evangelist as well.
He's been very active in reaching out to youth.
posted by , at
3/24/2006 3:33 PM
Yeah, Ryan reaches out to youth alright. He wrote a book called "Be Intolerant". What a great message. I see the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. How disgusting.
posted by , at
3/24/2006 3:35 PM
What was "Be intolerant" about, Chris?
posted by , at
3/24/2006 3:52 PM
I know exactly what it was about. But the point was that I would never put my name to a book with a title like "Be Intolerant".
posted by , at
3/24/2006 4:05 PM
Chris,
Was Ryan Dobson telling Christians to hate other people in that book?
posted by , at
3/24/2006 4:15 PM
I did not read the book, but researched it about six months ago when it came to my attention. So I will only make comments about the title, which I reiterate is disgraceful. Did you read Wayne's book?
posted by , at
3/24/2006 4:21 PM
Chris,
I haven't. I've read a lot of my GLBT friends reviews of it. Some say its good that the subjects Mr. Besen broached were being talked about. Others made it sound like a strange, uneven read. Still others intimated that it was sad, and that the book focused only on the negative.
posted by , at
3/24/2006 4:31 PM
I just read Wayne's book two weeks ago. I read it in one day. I couldn't believe how good it was. I thought it was terrific. You should read it.
posted by , at
3/24/2006 4:38 PM
Tell us Kurt, are you seriously telling us that Be Intolerant says nothing about opposing the so-called homosexual agenda? "Smug and ignorant" are words some reviewers use to describe it. He may not out and out tell Christians to hate, but he does instruct them how to condescend and feel morally superior.
Perchance does he talk about his divorce and tolerance for that? These Pharisees have no business telling us how to live our lives!
posted by , at
3/24/2006 4:40 PM
Hmmm...so the fact that Ryan Dobson divorced his wife means that nothing he says is true?
Or is it that (as I find so often, and I too feel this way) we don't have a problem with Christians, but we all have a problem with hypocrite Christians?
Chris, if I get the chance to read it I will.
posted by , at
3/24/2006 5:22 PM
RYAN DOBSON divorced his wife!??!? I am totally appalled.
posted by , at
3/24/2006 5:29 PM
In 2001 they say, yes, Ryan divorced his wife. So did Donnie Swaggart about that time divorce Debbie. I hope none of Ryan's friends read his book!
posted by , at
3/24/2006 5:53 PM
Who would write a book called "Be Intolerant"? There is a pretty thorough explanation of the Dobson clan of hate in an issue of Harper's Bizzare about a year ago and the interview with Ryan tell you what this book is all about, well, intolerance. Intolerance of anyone who is not white, christian, heterosexual. Behind the scenes, these "christians" are vicious, gossiping, spiteful people. Their idea of compassion is to mock and degrade not "reaching out to youth" . That is a crock of shit.
On the issue of gays and lesbians adopting, of course the report is a correct assessment of our fitness and willingness for parenthood. The fact that we will love and care for society's "throwaways" speaks volumes of the compassion we have that fundamentalist christians are sadly lacking.
posted by BC WaterBoy, at
3/24/2006 8:38 PM
BC, you hit the nail on the head. When I was a naive 15-year old in the Pentecostal church, little did I know what kind of stunning, mind numbing hypocrisy I would witness over the next 20 years. They are GREAT when it comes to preaching about all of the values that they don't uphold. Meanwhile, it's usually the atheist on the street who treats everyone with respect. Go figure. It took me a couple of decades to figure it out, but I finally learned that Christianity is about living a religious worldview. It has nothing to do with treating people with love or dignity, despite the admonitions of the one they claim to worship, Jesus. We gays know more about the spirit of Christ than these people will ever know!
posted by , at
3/25/2006 12:36 PM
I am NOT Kurt.
However, I wonder if gay parents are purely being altruistic when adopting. It could simply be that they want kids. I don't know that they're really thinking about helping society's throwaways.
Anyway, I am a bit skeptical of this study myself, considering who financed it. I'm all for gay rights and gay adoption, but I think it is important to use common sense when considering the facts here. We certainly can't call this study objective or scientific.
posted by , at
3/25/2006 1:38 PM
"Gay parents" don't uniformly act as one, of course. I think gays who adopt a child with developmental issues are definitely trying to help the less fortunate. There are others who only want a "perfect" child.
Just a thought: If a study was issued that said that children raised by Jewish people were just as healthy as children raised by non-Jews, and you found out that the study was commissioned by a Jewish group, would you doubt the results of the study?
posted by , at
3/25/2006 2:12 PM
Hey Anonymous, I SAID, that James Dobson didn't open his home up to children of color or those with problems.
His son Ryan is a WHITE guy who looks enough like Dobson to never know he was adopted.
DUH!
It's the gay adoptive parents, considering the fire they are under that deserve more credit than James Dobson is giving them.
THEY did or are willing to do what he has not.
It's not easy for a parent to raise a child that doesn't share their color or cultural background.
It's harder to be a gay parent and tend to your duty to your child because Dobson and Perkins have declared war on you and your children.
And are making the government do it too.
This I do know, children of the sort of mixed families that gay parent headed homes tend to be, are children who are less racist, sexist, homophobic and more compassionate for children with disabilities.
All those values, evidently, don't impress Dobson, nor HIS adopted son!
posted by Regan, at
3/25/2006 2:15 PM
Regan you go girl!
B Queer
posted by , at
3/25/2006 2:32 PM
Just a mute point, but sexual orientation really is irrelevant when considering fitness/unfitness for parenthood. Heterosexuality does not in itself guarantee fitness for parenthood and either does homosexuality. It is factually incorrect and absurd to suggest that a person is unfit simply because of his or her sexual orientation. We are all human beings and if we desire to follow our instinct or desire to be a parent, then all should have that right. If one abuses that right through evidence of child abuse or neglect, then that parent, hetero or homo, should lose that right to be a parent. Similarly, if a human being, homosexual of heterosexual, chooses not to become a parent, then that's their choice.
posted by BC WaterBoy, at
3/25/2006 3:57 PM
Is Regan a girl?
posted by , at
3/26/2006 1:02 PM
yes she is!
posted by , at
3/27/2006 9:00 AM
In the current issue of the Advocate is an article about Rosie O'Donnell's R Family Cruises for gays with children. In the article there is a quote which says that after the first cruise, the crew remarkded that 'they had never been on a cruise with so many well-behaved children'. 'Gay parents are different because they work really hard to become a parent'.
posted by , at
3/27/2006 11:45 AM
LOL...
I am a tall, broad shouldered, will take no prisoners, big mouthed BLACK woman with attitude!
I shave my head, wear big hoop silver earrings and I'm all over the bullshit from segregationists, especially the anti gay ones.
I was raised to raise a ruckus.
Not that I expected it, but my friends in the trenches call me 'honorary gay'.
I'll take it, it IS an honor.
I've had a few run ins with Dobson personally.
Lou Sheldon too. Lou daddy said that my advocacy of gay folks must be because I'm gay myself.
My response?
"Gee, Mr. Sheldon, you say that like it's a bad thing and I should take insult from that. I'm pleased you think so."
Imagine the look on his funky dunky face!
I got that kinda big mouth.
Lou Sheldon don't like black women who won't stay in their place either!
:0P
posted by Regan, at
3/27/2006 4:22 PM
Regs we need more people like you in this country (and the world).
B. Queer
posted by , at
3/27/2006 4:48 PM
B. Queer, my love...the world needs more folks like you too!
posted by Regan, at
3/27/2006 8:15 PM
The bottom line is, is that being is WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!! PERIOD.
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我并没有死广州货架，原来我的心是在右边仓储货架，而是不是左边货架厂。所以在那穿胸一剑之下我并没有死南京货架。
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我退出江湖了手推车，我没有通知江湖上的朋友们静音手推车，并来一个什么金盆洗手静音手推车，因为我的朋友们差不多都被他杀了置物架。我悄悄的走了置物架，隐进了山林之中堆垛架。俨然一个世外高人的样子堆垛架，每天一壶绿茶登高车，放在身边的几上登高车，然后或盯着一朵白云超市手推车，或盯着一片树叶物流手推车，或双目紧闭物流台车。我的刀在玉盆中泡了七七四十九天角钢货架，已经没有血腥味了角钢货架。然后我把它放在我的屋顶轻型货架，任它风吹雨打轻型货架。
十年就这年过去了中型货架。为何今天天忽然想起那柄剑中型货架，那道剑光重型货架？而且内心为什么如此不安重型货架？不应该是这样的仓库货架，对于一个喝了十年绿茶的人来说服装货架，面对死上海货架，也已不再惧怕精品货架，不再不安苏州货架，但今天又为何如此呢托盘货架？
莫非是他青岛货架，和他的剑库房货架，加上他的剑光沈阳货架。我已不问江湖之事天津货架，想他十年前也应该坐上武林盟主的位子了杭州货架，一个武林中人做了武林盟主山东货架，这一生还有什么要求的呢文件柜？
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一定快有什么事情发生了工作桌。
剑还是那美丽的剑Google左侧排名，如果再加上一道剑光吹塑机，就会形成剑的艺术色带，武学的艺术电源插座。
我问反光背心：为何还来找我滚针轴承，我已在十年之前就退出江湖了夜光粉。
他说文化石：因为你没死缎带，因为我没有对手风火轮。
我说激光打标机：十年前已不是你的对手平衡机，何况现在十年未动刀大功率led。
他说磁力泵：放眼天下梯子，只有你一个人是我的对手网眼袋，也只你一个人对我的威胁无尘布。
我不再说话手摇手电筒，因为我不知道说什么手板，我知道我十年前就开始找我毛巾布，发现我没有死就开始找我磁钢。我不死促销台，他心不安模具钢材。
他说时尚配饰：拿出你的刀筛网。
我说齿轮泵：我已无刀天使花房，命托辊，亦可有可无色丁。
他盯着我广告衫，握剑的手越来越紧钢坯，我知道那道美丽的剑光可能随时发出过滤网。在那美丽过后疏水阀，我的生命将画上句号胸章。
阳光照在了刀上发热管，反射到他的脸上手机耳机。他发现了那把刀螺杆，我的刀插销，宝刀蝴蝶，没有鞘的刀工具包。
刀已在我手中点钞机，刀还是那把刀配电箱，人却已不是那个人流苏，因为心不是那颗心沙滩巾。
他为了杀我竟找了我十年氯化镁，而为了和我比武竟帮我从屋顶拿下我的刀来双面胶带，并放在我的手中碳纤维。我忽然发现排线，他也变了汽车座垫，他在后悔十年前将所有高手都杀绝珍珠奶茶。
高手的悲哀太阳伞。
我握紧了刀桥架，我看着他的眼tpr，已经不再像十年前那样明亮了钢丝。
他的剑划出柴油发电机组，划出一道美丽的剑光护栏。我想围栏，这十年他大概在不停地使自己的剑光更美围栏。
我的刀也出了隔离网。简单的动作隔离网，一刀刺进了他的胸网片。那道美丽的光忽然停止网片，停在我的衣服上南京货架。
他说北京货架：这也是艺术北京货架，杀人的艺术北京货架，想不到你十年不动刀还懂这个艺术仓储货架。
我说仓储货架：因为我不想再让你痛苦了广州货架。
他说广州货架：谢谢货架厂。
我走了货架公司。我头也不回的走了塑料托盘。没有取回我的刀塑料托盘，因为我觉得它在我身边已经没用塑料托盘，我后悔我十年前为什么不扔了它塑料托盘？我听到了尸体倒下的声音塑料托盘。我流泪了塑料托盘，我真的不想杀他仓储笼，十年前不想仓储笼，十年后也不想仓储笼，因为我下山时答应过师父仓储笼，一切让着他仓储笼。
我叹了一口气仓储笼。远去仓储笼。
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