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Friday, May 30, 2008

Family Law Attorney Don Schweitzer appeared on the O'Reilly Factor to oppose same-sex marriage. When pressed, he could not come up with a cogent or lucid reason why Californians should vote against granting gay people marriage equality. Watch the video to see how intellectually bankrupt our opponents truly are. We can only hope this clown is the one who argues any future court cases for the right wing.

Also, opponents of same-sex unions were pondering a range of legal and legislative challenges to Gov. David A. Paterson's new policy of having state agencies honor same-sex marriages that have been performed outside New York. However, such challenges are likely to fail and face an uphill fight, legal experts said.

Finally, the Los Angeles Times had an excellent editorial on this topic:

Surely the trailing edges of society will soon reflect on the resistance to this phenomenon with chagrin and more than a little embarrassment. It is bracing, after all, to realize how recently much of this nation blanched at interracial marriage, and thrilling to recognize how quickly most of us buried that prejudice, first in law, then in custom.

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posted by Robert, NYC., at 5/30/2008 12:38 PM

Some moderate right wingers and moderate democrats such as Clinton and Obama actually believe that civil unions are the solution to the same-sex marriage debacle. What these ignoramouses are unaware of is that civil unions only provide roughly 400 of the 1324 right and privileges that marriage confers, where's the equality in that?

The only society that offers all the rights and privileges of marriage without the name is the UK via its civil partnership law where they are recognized at the national level and are portable within the country as well as Spain which recognizes them as an equivalent to marriage. Civil partnership and marriage rights in the UK are identical and its a huge difference compared to the flawed civil unions at the federal level that the two contenders are opting for.
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And anyone who thinks that giving us the same rights (even though that's not what's happening) under another name needs to read Brown v. The Board of Education. Separate but equal, said the Supreme Court, is never equal. Separateness itself creates inequality.

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